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I started to rush thru this (on my way to the day job): "To ascribe some sort of powerful mystique or expertise to all of us who spent time in a combat zone is dumb "

You are aware of a very influential novel in the 1920s and 30s - Storm of Steel (Ernst Junger) ?

https://www.amazon.com/dp/0143108255/?bestFormat=true&k=storm%20of%20steel&ref_=nb_sb_ss_w_scx-ent-bk-ww_k0_1_10_de&crid=CGP4SH0O5VLQ&sprefix=storm%20of%20s

Argued just this: mystique - spiritual depth - more than expertise - and deep comradely connections -- and more careful to insist on real combat at the front (i.e. of WWI) (not just "zone") -- the author himself was a decorated combat veteran seriously wounded more than once - lived to carouse the cabaret scene in Paris as an SS officer in the early 40 and then lived to 1985 aged102 presumably in some comfort in the context of the Economic Miracle - near the mystically redolent Bavaria. What a life!

Widely read in Germany in the 20s and 30s - perhaps principally responsible for "re-fueling" the Wehrmacht in the 1940s so soon after the carnage of the trenches. Dumb maybe - but effective. British boys at Oxford, by contrast, formally and famously voted in 1933 not to fight for king or country. Of course Germans experienced the bitterness of defeat and not the emptiness of victory.

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"even though the seven proposed military telescopes on Maui appear to be the perfect targets for local outrage"

All anger of this sort comes from basically an unrealized assumption. People will flat out ignore reason and logic if needed to accomplish a deeper goal. This is an absolutely caustic lesson. Honestly close to a genuine cognito hazard. All you can do is make the argument and hope someone in ear shot was already ready to hear it.

"a collective nothingburger so far, ironically because they matter."

https://innomen.substack.com/p/why-you-cant-change-anyones-mind As you know.

"Others risk their lives without acquiring the mystique and awe of combat veterans—like police, firemen, Alaska crab fishermen. I read that the most dangerous job in terms of death rate is actually highway worker."

Yup, our society is literally a blood cult. A semi randomized human sacrifice lottery. That's literally what it means to accept some non-zero percentage of occupational fatalities. And only moral account fraud allows for making that policy: https://philpapers.org/rec/SERTEC

"Useful takes a backseat to cool."

More specifically we are conned into making experienced reality take a back seat to asserted externalism.

"Ask Derek Alldred. Or rather, ask Brave AI about him:"

Date a monster, expect monstrous behavior. Dark triad lust is real.

"If only all sociopaths were as stupid and careless …"

The survivor fallacy is real. We only catch the fools and outsiders.

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